[ It's a gentle correction, because some of that time was Breach and some Shaw wasn't awake for. He regrets the gentleness a bit as she moves on- his eyebrows shoot up at the next statement. ]
In context? Yeah. I mean-- you're here because of the murder and the manipulation and the harm you've done to others, but taking those actions at face value would be pretty reductive.
[ Those eyebrows stay up, but he's clearly thinking it over. After some mulling, he releases all his breath in one sigh and nods. ]
...I never had the same boundaries that other people automatically had in place. With my condition, it wasn't a possibility. So I built physical walls, as much as possible. Distance. Automatic responses to keep people away. It was hardly foolproof- you've read that for yourself. But it helped.
And I'm...not allowed any of those here. It's all oriented to let more people in- the floods, the breaches, the lack of space. I am more exposed here than I have been in decades. So...honestly, I don't know what directions I should be leaning in.
That... makes a lot of sense, actually. And I don't want to discourage you doing that.
[She pauses.]
I just worry about you two ending up with that same closed-off-to-outsiders, codependent, us-against-the-world partnership you had with Lecter. Just because Bright is a major upgrade doesn't mean that kind of thing is a good thing, you know?
[ Will nods about the first part- he truly hadn't been sure if attempting to go with the 'open and honest' theme the Barge seemed to encourage was doing good for him, or if Shaw was aware of problems he wasn't. The clarification helps- and he's glad to understand her concern. ]
I know. And I know that both him and I are very susceptible to developing codependency. It's possible we're both keeping an eye out for it, in different ways. I'm not focusing all my attention on him, I'm trying to learn new things for my own benefit, I am spending time with others. Is that- is there anything else I could do to ease your mind on that front?
Talk to me about it, including the stuff you think I won't approve of-- no, actually, especially the stuff you think I won't approve of. I know that sounds backwards, but if you're open about the hinky stuff then I'm gonna worry less that there's something nuts going on behind the scenes. A couple months ago, you called him possessive, and you sounded like you thought that was a good thing. How's that going?
[ God, she's never going to let that go, is she? He looks down at his hands before answering. ]
That was projection, looking back at it. I didn't want to stop seeing him, I didn't want to see anyone else, and I was reaching for what'd put you off. I'm possessive, and I didn't want to lose my time with him.
That's become more obvious when those bugs were here, and- there was a party recently that he brought me to. He got punched, out of the blue by Laura. He has Gaius' healing, so he was fine, but- Neal came by afterward to check on him. And he was drunk- there was a lot of touching.
[ Will narrows his eyes a bit, but he's not even annoyed. Just unsure. ]
I got Malcolm out of the party as quickly as I could. The mood was ruined anyway, but- I wanted him away from Neal.
No, we haven't. I've been trying to be understanding of their situation. And I've always tried to mind my own business when it came to Neal being his inmate.
Not that it helped things when Neal got sent back home, but I don't think I made any of it worse.
Okay. And do you get why isolating Malcolm from a concerned friend was a crappy thing to do, and an impulse you shouldn't have followed, even if neither of them knew that's what you were doing? Or are you okay with having done that?
[It's not said with anger or judgement or disappointment - she's asking both matter-of-factly, and genuinely.]
I gave them space. I didn't move in to physically separate them, even though Neal was very clearly drunk. Possibly because of that, as that was why he got handsy. I didn't stop their conversation. I feel I was the appropriate level of polite.
If I'd actually followed my impulse, I know that would've been...crappy. But I didn't. I feel I've been extremely respectful towards Neal, because I know he's been going through a lot lately.
[ His eyebrows twitch and that's the only indication that he's annoyed about this line of questioning. ]
I did, although- I should've been clearer and said 'as quickly as was socially acceptable.' I let Neal check on him and make sure he was okay, then declared myself done with the party. Malcolm came with me.
No one even had their feelings hurt, as far as I could tell. But I still wanted him away from Neal at the time. Does that make more sense?
Yeah. And that is better than if you'd been a dick about it, or hustled Caffrey away early. But friends touch each other sometimes, and it doesn't mean Caffrey wants to steal your boyfriend away, so it's still a worrying impulse, you know? Not the worst thing, but something to keep an eye on.
[Shaw shifts around, breaking eye contact for a moment to look at the ceiling, at the dog, and at the walls before settling her gaze back on him.]
For the record. Even if you had shoved Caffrey out of the way and, I don't know, forced Bright out of the room, I'd still want to be your warden.
Malcolm didn't know until Neal came back. He thought- and might still think- that Neal was just responding to Malcolm's kindness early on in their pairing. I...don't know. I've tried to stay out of it.
[ He takes in a deep breath, then smiles wanly. ] Of course, my mind doesn't make that easy.
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Well...I haven't proposed marriage yet?
[ He has thought about it... ]
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[Or three or maybe four or whatever. Time is weird.]
Your whole reason for being here is your history with unhealthy relationships, Will.
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[ It's a gentle correction, because some of that time was Breach and some Shaw wasn't awake for. He regrets the gentleness a bit as she moves on- his eyebrows shoot up at the next statement. ]
My whole reason?
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...I never had the same boundaries that other people automatically had in place. With my condition, it wasn't a possibility. So I built physical walls, as much as possible. Distance. Automatic responses to keep people away. It was hardly foolproof- you've read that for yourself. But it helped.
And I'm...not allowed any of those here. It's all oriented to let more people in- the floods, the breaches, the lack of space. I am more exposed here than I have been in decades. So...honestly, I don't know what directions I should be leaning in.
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[She pauses.]
I just worry about you two ending up with that same closed-off-to-outsiders, codependent, us-against-the-world partnership you had with Lecter. Just because Bright is a major upgrade doesn't mean that kind of thing is a good thing, you know?
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I know. And I know that both him and I are very susceptible to developing codependency. It's possible we're both keeping an eye out for it, in different ways. I'm not focusing all my attention on him, I'm trying to learn new things for my own benefit, I am spending time with others. Is that- is there anything else I could do to ease your mind on that front?
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[ God, she's never going to let that go, is she? He looks down at his hands before answering. ]
That was projection, looking back at it. I didn't want to stop seeing him, I didn't want to see anyone else, and I was reaching for what'd put you off. I'm possessive, and I didn't want to lose my time with him.
That's become more obvious when those bugs were here, and- there was a party recently that he brought me to. He got punched, out of the blue by Laura. He has Gaius' healing, so he was fine, but- Neal came by afterward to check on him. And he was drunk- there was a lot of touching.
[ Will narrows his eyes a bit, but he's not even annoyed. Just unsure. ]
I got Malcolm out of the party as quickly as I could. The mood was ruined anyway, but- I wanted him away from Neal.
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Does Bright know?
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[ His mind flashes back to that night and the words he said to Malcolm after they were finally alone again. ]
I'm pretty sure he's aware by now. But we've never talked about that, specifically.
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Not that it helped things when Neal got sent back home, but I don't think I made any of it worse.
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[It's not said with anger or judgement or disappointment - she's asking both matter-of-factly, and genuinely.]
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[ He doesn't even have to think about that. ]
I gave them space. I didn't move in to physically separate them, even though Neal was very clearly drunk. Possibly because of that, as that was why he got handsy. I didn't stop their conversation. I feel I was the appropriate level of polite.
If I'd actually followed my impulse, I know that would've been...crappy. But I didn't. I feel I've been extremely respectful towards Neal, because I know he's been going through a lot lately.
[ His eyebrows twitch and that's the only indication that he's annoyed about this line of questioning. ]
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No one even had their feelings hurt, as far as I could tell. But I still wanted him away from Neal at the time. Does that make more sense?
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[Shaw shifts around, breaking eye contact for a moment to look at the ceiling, at the dog, and at the walls before settling her gaze back on him.]
For the record. Even if you had shoved Caffrey out of the way and, I don't know, forced Bright out of the room, I'd still want to be your warden.
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I believe you. I know why you keep trying to convince me you'll stay on, but you don't have to go to the trouble.
Uh- also. Neal's still in love with Malcolm. I'm pretty sure.
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Oh.
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[ This is why he thinks he's been doing pretty well with Neal. ]
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[ He takes in a deep breath, then smiles wanly. ] Of course, my mind doesn't make that easy.
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I think he's trying to move on from Malcolm, but feelings don't always follow what you tell them to. I'm pretty much an expert on that.
But even when Neal was at his angriest, he never raised a hand to me. He's a good guy. I'm trying to give him time.
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