[Shaw snorts in a way that somehow manages to be both derisive and fond, shaking her head.]

She's so full of shit.

[But then she pauses, and adds--]

Actually, I think she really does like cooking. Parading it on the network is for show, though. But, uh, it's--

[It's a lot of things at once; it's hard to put into words. It makes her face falter, a little.]

It's good. And it's nerve-wracking. It being nerve-wracking doesn't make it any less good, but it does make it more complicated.