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empathicfault) wrote2023-06-18 11:04 am
empathicfault) wrote2023-06-18 11:04 am
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Most people wanted to talk punishment - consequences, repercussions, not letting de Lioncourt "get away" with bad behavior, that kinda thing. There was argument about if enough had been done to punish him in the past, and if his victims had been well-informed about those punishments, which still doesn't seem like the most important issue to me, but whatever. We talked about the flood, and whether it's right to hold people fully accountable for their actions during it. We debated about whether or not sitting in the greenhouse and keeping an eye on de Lioncourt is "stalking". We talked about de Lioncourt having sit-downs with his victims in an attempt to get him to see them as people. Pretty much everybody thought that was worth giving a shot; it was the one thing there was widespread agreement on.
[ Will's quiet for awhile, digesting the information. ]
Well. At least they agreed on that. Reid talked to me privately earlier, by the way- I explained why I was so bothered by the issue. I mentioned how I spent a lot of my time back home watching people get hurt, and it's terrible for me. He seemed to understand and offered to let me talk to Lestat- supervised, of course. If you're okay with it.
Sounds like that's the general consensus for the direct victims, too. Any talk about prevention, before he starts- hopefully- regaining a sense of basic decency?
Well. At least they agreed on that. Reid talked to me privately earlier, by the way- I explained why I was so bothered by the issue. I mentioned how I spent a lot of my time back home watching people get hurt, and it's terrible for me. He seemed to understand and offered to let me talk to Lestat- supervised, of course. If you're okay with it.
Sounds like that's the general consensus for the direct victims, too. Any talk about prevention, before he starts- hopefully- regaining a sense of basic decency?
[ Will groans, sounding annoyed- but probably not for the same reasons as Shaw. ]
Damn it. I'd have to know more, but...Reid might be right about that. Some personality disorders respond very poorly to being 'managed,' controlled, or watched. Him being a vampire just means that there's hundreds of years of that to undo rather than just a couple of decades.
Was there any talk about what to do if floods mess him up again? He's only gotten violent during those, hasn't he? Although that first one wasn't a mind-affecting flood.
Damn it. I'd have to know more, but...Reid might be right about that. Some personality disorders respond very poorly to being 'managed,' controlled, or watched. Him being a vampire just means that there's hundreds of years of that to undo rather than just a couple of decades.
Was there any talk about what to do if floods mess him up again? He's only gotten violent during those, hasn't he? Although that first one wasn't a mind-affecting flood.
Unfortunately, we let everyone do free for all murders, my gun would be gettin' a lot more work and we're lookin' to bring that kinda shit down here.
Focus on helpin' Malcolm get back to 100%. The Wardens are on it, somethin'll get worked out. I hope, anyway. Been a while since this much smoke went up about one person.
Focus on helpin' Malcolm get back to 100%. The Wardens are on it, somethin'll get worked out. I hope, anyway. Been a while since this much smoke went up about one person.
I am focusing on Malcolm, because apparently that keeps me from walking out and finding some weapons. I'm less confident that something will get worked out...haven't exactly had great experiences with groups of people in positions of power. Hopefully, you'll understand.
But distracting myself? That I can do. And Malcolm needs support.
But distracting myself? That I can do. And Malcolm needs support.
Will do. Let me know if you need any more summaries of what's going on.
Or want updates on Malcolm. It's looking like he'll heal this up pretty quickly, thankfully. The cut was deep but not wide.
Or want updates on Malcolm. It's looking like he'll heal this up pretty quickly, thankfully. The cut was deep but not wide.
[ Deep, annoyed sigh. ]
Great.
Listen- I'll tell you now. If there's ever a flood where I have advantage over Lestat, I'll probably hurt him. Might be the flood affecting me, might just be that I'm frustrated. And then we can see how much people's minds change about what should be done.
Great.
Listen- I'll tell you now. If there's ever a flood where I have advantage over Lestat, I'll probably hurt him. Might be the flood affecting me, might just be that I'm frustrated. And then we can see how much people's minds change about what should be done.
Eh, maybe not.
[ More sighing. That's not really the response he'd want- not that he might care in the event of a flood, anyway. ]
Well, that's partially why I took that offer from Gaius, anyway. If other people aren't going to try and stop these things, I might as well try for protection. Thanks for pointing me that way.
[ More sighing. That's not really the response he'd want- not that he might care in the event of a flood, anyway. ]
Well, that's partially why I took that offer from Gaius, anyway. If other people aren't going to try and stop these things, I might as well try for protection. Thanks for pointing me that way.
I am. Since Henry brought all those monsters back with them, I'm consistent about having them with me when I'm out of the cabin.
I know.
I assume that goes for if I'm trying to attack someone else, as well?
I assume that goes for if I'm trying to attack someone else, as well?
I know that, too. And I appreciate it. I know you're just as frustrated as me.
Both, if you're willin'. Whatever insight I can get into the situation here. [Otherwise he would learn about it on the other side, but he'd rather hear it straight from one of the sources, in the moment.]
You happen to know what Malcolm asked Lestat? About Neal?
You happen to know what Malcolm asked Lestat? About Neal?
I don't, actually. I plan on asking when Malcolm's in a better state. I'm assuming it was something innocuous but taken the wrong way- as everyone seems to do with the way Malcolm says things. Sometimes I understand why, and sometimes it's a mystery to me.
Anyway, Neal's been having a rough time lately, so I wouldn't be surprised if Malcolm asked Lestat how he's doing.
Anyway, Neal's been having a rough time lately, so I wouldn't be surprised if Malcolm asked Lestat how he's doing.
I've suffered it myself, The Way he says Things. [Especially on the Clipper but plenty on the Barge. That didn't stop him being protective and loving Malcolm anyway. His position had evolved.]
That mean that Neal's been hangin' out with Lestat? [The surprise was clear in the question.]
That mean that Neal's been hangin' out with Lestat? [The surprise was clear in the question.]
I think they're friends? I don't know. I try not to get too involved with Neal, considering how touchy things've been between us.
I hope you haven't suffered too much, with the way Malcolm says things. Did being his brother for the last Breach make it more or less tough?
I hope you haven't suffered too much, with the way Malcolm says things. Did being his brother for the last Breach make it more or less tough?
Less tough. He was my warden when the Barge got taken over and separated out, even though he doesn't remember it. I didn't take to being an inmate well. Started a Riot and held him hostage. Being his brother definitely helped things along.
Touchy because you're with Malcolm now? Touchy because he's not?
Touchy because you're with Malcolm now? Touchy because he's not?
Right, you mentioned that at that Meet and Greet thing. That ship you were taken to, where I almost certainly would've joined you in your riot. Or I would've been drugged within an inch of my life. I'm...glad he doesn't remember that, if I'm honest.
Ah, yeah. I didn't know Neal was interested. Malcolm didn't know, but he's...unkind with himself, most of the time. I had to lay it out for him pretty plainly.
Ah, yeah. I didn't know Neal was interested. Malcolm didn't know, but he's...unkind with himself, most of the time. I had to lay it out for him pretty plainly.
I figured that would be the case. I'm glad anyone who could miss it did.
He is. I knew when Neal kissed him that that was the case, but- [he was a little more Worldly than Malcolm in that way.] I'll check in with Neal, see how he's doing. Malcolm.. mentioned Neal and Norton feelin' some kind of way. I told him it didn't matter; they'll sort themselves out.
[And he's repeating it for Will's benefit - Raylan supported attempts at happiness, for all the struggle that came with them here.]
He is. I knew when Neal kissed him that that was the case, but- [he was a little more Worldly than Malcolm in that way.] I'll check in with Neal, see how he's doing. Malcolm.. mentioned Neal and Norton feelin' some kind of way. I told him it didn't matter; they'll sort themselves out.
[And he's repeating it for Will's benefit - Raylan supported attempts at happiness, for all the struggle that came with them here.]
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